Stacy Herbert met Max Keizer in 2003 in a French internet café. Her media career up until then had mainly been behind the scenes as a script consultant and “development girl” in Hollywood and the stories Keizer told her about banking and finance, as well as the energy with which this former stand-up comedian from Manhattan spoiled her, inspired her to team up with him.
“I’ve always been the go-between between the audience and the talent, the movie stars, the television stars, the comedy writers and the like,” Herbert told Bitcoin Magazine. “Our conversations there were how to get the stories Max tells me on screen, how to get them on a podcast in 2003, before podcasts really existed.”
Since then, the two have produced television content for the BBC and BBC World (a platform Herbert described as “very depressing”, but also the one that she and Keizer for the first time in front of the camera), Al-Jazeera, the Iranian state. own news channel Press TV and Russian state-controlled broadcaster RT. This content has always referred to the financial world by labeling the Wall Street banks as antagonists and the system as manipulated against the majority, but it wasn’t until Bitcoin emerged that the two found their protagonist, their “superhero”, as Herbert described it .
Bitcoin’s first pair
In addition to their collaboration, Herbert and Keizer are married. Anecdotally, I’ve rarely seen one without the other sharing a stage or being nearby. Keizer is certainly the more colorful character of the two (he was called “Krypto Willy Wonka” by “Daily Show” presenter Trevor Noah after a manic-energetic appearance on Bitcoin 2021), while Herbert describes himself as his “operating system” (she was the one to confirm our interview date and grab Keizer when he should start).
“I always see our relationship as a gang of two,” Keizer told Bitcoin Magazine. “It’s a very small gang, there are only two people in the gang, but that’s how we go about our work and our lives. We travel the world, spreading Bitcoin’s maximalist message, and watching out for one another like gang members do, and we trust each other like we’re in the gang. We took an oath we called ‘marriage’ as found in a gang, and we love the gang lifestyle. “
Today, in addition to RT’s “The Keizer Report” and other projects, the couple produces the “Orange Pill Podcast”, which has just celebrated its one-year anniversary and, according to Herbert, records 500,000 to a million downloads and views per month. I spoke to them as they prepared for the leg of their “F * ck Elon Tour” in Phoenix, AZ, live nights where Herbert interviews bitcoin thought leaders and Keizer does stand-up routines where he puts central bankers on a tight schedule Clothing embodies.
Since attending the very first Bitcoin conference in 2011, Keizer has become the most reliable and outrageous maximalist of Bitcoin, someone who can boost the energy in a room like few others who have so much knowledge and commitment to an ultimately open source. Software have project.
“I’m just channeling the energy of the audience and the audience wants to let go, the audience wants to have a kind of Bitcoin orgasm and I can feel it in the air,” Keizer explains his live stage personality. “And I’m helping her, essentially her coming, at the same time as this massive Bitcoin orgasm. I’m only there to make this orgasm possible, so I can just feel it in the air and let it happen. “
Herbert said that her process is more research-oriented and focused on contrasting international headlines with historical precedents, and she certainly seems to focus Keiser’s messages when sharing a platform.
It is clear between the two that their media products affect people all over the world. As Alex Gladstein recently reported for Bitcoin Magazine, the “Keizer Report” serves as “a kind of Trojan horse that reaches large numbers of Cubans and Venezuelans through government programs and integrates them into the new Bitcoin economy”.
Live the bitcoin lifestyle
In many ways, the couple offer a living definition of the bitcoin lifestyle – traveling the world, talking about it regularly, actively trying to convert others to the adoption of bitcoin, and essentially looking at every component of life through the lens of this transformative technology. Promoting this lifestyle seems to be the common thread through their podcasts, broadcasts, and live productions, and they are optimistic about its power as a cultural force.
“We have reached a point where the Bitcoin lifestyle is becoming more of the prevailing zeitgeist,” said Keizer. “We went through several periods of the Cultural Revolution. I’ve been through a few, the internet and the 90s was a cultural revolution … And then of course back to the 60s … I think Bitcoin is next and best, last and ultimately the winner in terms of preserving this freedom revolution that we already have have experienced a few times. “
With their unique combination of outrageous and informative content, the delivery of anti-fiat messages on government sponsored platforms, and their reputation as broadcast journalists obsessed with Bitcoin memes, Herbert and Keizer seem to embody the current state of hyperbitcoinization – the process by which Bitcoin grows in the value system of the world. Some may foresee this process as one that ends with bitcoiners holing up in fortified citadels while the fiat-based world collapses around them. But Herbert sees the process of takeover by the rulers as the fiat world is steadily declining and Bitcoin enables more egalitarianism.
“It’s going to be done by orange pilling these forces because because hyperbitcoinization is happening, it’s in El Salvador, it’s in the Telegram group, Orange Pill Podcast,” she said. “You saw it at Bitcoin 2021 as someone like Chamath [Palihapitiya] who’s a billionaire comes in and says, ‘Hey, I’m a billionaire, I know what I’m talking about, listen to me.’ And the plebs say ‘fuck you’ and he’s off the stage. That is remarkable. “
As always, Keizer was a bit more cosmic when he talked about his vision for the Bitcoin future.
“Each block syncs everything that ever happened in the past and gives us the possibility that there is a mysterious future because you never know where the difficulty adjustment will end up,” he said. “So, everything in front of us is mysterious, everything behind us is completely on the blockchain and immutable. And that gives us the ability to exist in the omnipresent now, in the infinite now. And now we’re stepping into that gravity well, we’ve crossed the bitcoin singularity, we’re now going to this point of the face of God, as I like to call it. We’re about to find out why we’re here, and that’s incredibly interesting. “
It may not be exactly certain how hyperbitcoinization will develop. But you can rely on Herbert and Keizer to lead the march and hold hands the entire way.